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I like the marketed focus of these laptops. However, because I dislike deceptive marketing I don't like Purism. They present their laptops as extraordinaly open when they are in fact no different than a lot of other laptops on the market regarding openness. All I see in them is the addition of a hardware switch and the installation and configuration of trisquel.

The only company I know of which sells considerably more open laptops than the competition is Minifree Ltd[1]. They have the RYF certification from the FSF. Still, there is non-free code running in the devices as a system — think hdd firmware — but the advances they’ve made are substantial.

[1] http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/



> All I see in them is the addition of a hardware switch and the installation and configuration of trisquel.

I'm not aware of any major commercial computer with a FOSS BIOS or a hardware RF killer for the wireless parts.


First, the purism laptops have no foss bios.

    The Librem PCH X99 uses [the Intel Management Engine blob]
    and the board will not boot without the blob.[1]
Second, the laptops sold by Minifree Ltd have a foss bios.

Fun fact: Purism even links to me.bios.io[1], which contains this little gem

    there is a little man inside your pc... and his thing is bigger
    than yours. Your wife knows this.[2]
about the Management Engine.

[1] https://puri.sm/posts/bios-freedom-status/

[2] http://me.bios.io/ME:Introduction


Any modern Intel computer needs the Intel ME. It is a harmful opaque binary but the only ways to get around it is to a) use an ancient chipset (i.e. GlugGlugs x60s) or b) use a different processor like ARM.

I dislike Purism in that they say things like "Purism OS" rather than Linux / Trisequel, but if they do ship a coreboot bios laptop running Trisequel (Trisequel is just Ubuntu stripped of non free kernel components) then I believe it will be the most free Intel laptop with a modern chipset available.


    it will be the most free Intel laptop with a modern chipset available.
How will it be any more free than the laptops listed here[1]?

    Any modern Intel computer needs the Intel ME.
My reaction to that is to evade modern Intel like the pest. I wonder if I’ve enough company in this reaction to be noticeable for the people at Intel who listen to money.

[1] http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards#Laptops


For one thing, Intel Boot Guard is disabled unlike many other modern Intel laptops, allowing you to modify the firmware in the first place. I think this is more important than being "100% FOSS" or the like.


All the laptops that can run coreboot also have no Intel Boot Guard or equivalent function, which couldn’t be disabled by the user.

I remain with the conclusion that Purisms marketing is deceptive, borderline lying.


Yes, my point is that the only modern Intel alternative I know of without Boot Guard is Chromebooks.


Or AMD? (I don't know the state of AMD firmware/microcode - but they do at least still offer amd64-compatible CPUs that are not Intel).


Since Kaveri AMD started building in the "Platform Security Processor". That's an ARM core that provides Trust Zone feature (ie. "make Hollywood trust your computer, despite you, the user"). Its code is signed as well.

About the same time they also stopped releasing source code for hardware initialization.

So along that axis they're not significantly better or worse than Intel nowadays. (I guess you can get by with a smaller firmware, and they allow redistribution, which are both nice, but not very relevant for freedom or security purposes)


My Thinkpad x201 has an hardware switch for turning wireless on/off, though I can't tell if it actually cuts the power or just tells the module to disable itself.


Usually this is a signal to the miniPCI card (it has its dedicated pin) but there is no requirement for the card to listen to it.


They don't have a FOSS BIOS. Read the reddit thread in the comments here.




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