> A lot of (possibly most) LSD sold today (even LSD from Silkroad, and, amazingly, even LSD from vendors favorably reviewed by The Avengers (see: selective scamming)) is, in fact,a different drug altogether. Most often, an n-benzylated phenethylamine (e.g. 25I-NBOMe).
Your source for these sweeping claims?
> The only thing these drugs have in common with LSD is that they are potent hallucinogens, but you wouldn't notice the difference anyway on a sub-treshold dose.
I wouldn't, no. But that doesn't explain why when I tripped on the second tab, it exactly matched what I was expecting from what I'd read about LSD trips.
> I can tell you from anecdotal experience that this method leaves a significant amount of the substance embedded in the blotter.
How exactly does that work, given that LSD is water soluble and the solution was very dilute?
> Finally, putting LSD dissolved in an aqueous solution in a regular fridge is a horrible way to go about storing it. LSD must be protected from light and from changes in temperature, so a fridge doesn't work very well in this regard. Plus, dissolving LSD in a solution makes it degrade much faster, if the solution comes into contact with oxygen, since the surface area where reactions with oxygen can occur expands vastly.
It seemed a standard approach which protects it from light and heat degradation, and there would be no 'changes in temperature' given that the tabs were stored in the refrigerator the entire time before being turned into a solution which itself was stored in a refrigerator the entire time.
> And I can't resist a little addendum - you would have done much better if you simply swallowed those two tabs, sat down in a comfy chair, put some nice music on, and tried to figure out what are those extravagant claims of psychonauts about ;)
I am amused that you think I didn't do exactly that. So, you have made these claims assuming that I did not trip or listen to music. Now that you have learned that I did, and I regard my previous opinions as still correct, are you changing any of your beliefs?
No source. Just information that you may for all intents and purposes call hearsay. What is your source that proves your tabs had LSD on them? Why didn't you get them lab-tested? Or at the very least reagent tested?
> How exactly does that work, given that LSD is water soluble and the solution was very dilute?
Didn't you say you took the blotter out after a day? Can you prove there was nothing in the blotter?
> It seemed a standard approach which protects it from light and heat degradation, and there would be no 'changes in temperature' given that the tabs were stored in the refrigerator the entire time before being turned into a solution which itself was stored in a refrigerator the entire time.
Were the tabs stored in an airtight container before being turned to solution? How did you account for condensation when you took them out?
I'm sorry if I unfairly doubted your LSD storage-fu. Your post, however, did not give me the impression that you knew what you were doing when you were handling the substance, and I remain unconvinced even after reading your reply.
> I am amused that you think I didn't do exactly that. So, you have made these claims assuming that I did not trip or listen to music. Now that you have learned that I did, and I regard my previous opinions as still correct, are you changing any of your beliefs?
I have not changed my beliefs, and why would I? I objected to the way you conducted your experiment, not to the fact that you did not go for a psychedelic dose. Knowing that you did go for it, changes absolutely nothing.
In fact, now that you have clarified that you ran your entire experiment with mere 1(!) tab worth of LSD (let's give the tabs the benefit of doubt), I can't help but be amazed at how quick you are to arrive at conclusions.
> No source. Just information that you may for all intents and purposes call hearsay.
So I can ignore it.
> Can you prove there was nothing in the blotter?
Umm... No? Can you prove there is not a teapot in orbit around Mercury? The LSD dissolving out is exactly what one would expect of a water-soluble substance. The burden is on you.
> Why didn't you get them lab-tested?
Because I am not rich. Send me $300 and I'll be sure to lab test any additional batches.
> Or at the very least reagent tested?
Because an Ehrlich reagant only shows the presence of indoles, and wouldn't show me what I needed to know, which was whether there was LSD, and what total dose was present.
> In fact, now that you have clarified that you ran your entire experiment with mere 1(!) tab worth of LSD (let's give the tabs the benefit of doubt), I can't help but be amazed at how quick you are to arrive at conclusions.
That's the thing about micro doses. They're, well, tiny. You only need one or two normal doses to make enough microdoses to test. That's what the power calculations were about, whether I needed one or two entire tabs.
> Were the tabs stored in an airtight container before being turned to solution?
They were shipped airtight and kept airtight until I tripped, then the remaining tab was mostly but not entirely sealed until a week later. Given that people routinely stash tabs in books and other places, I doubt that the week did it much damage.
> Your post, however, did not give me the impression that you knew what you were doing when you were handling the substance, and I remain unconvinced even after reading your reply.
Given your failure to provide any real information, despite your criticism, I'm not convinced you know what you're doing either.
> Knowing that you did go for it, changes absolutely nothing.
Really? Let me remind you what you wrote in your little supercilious comment about the fatal flaws:
> And I can't resist a little addendum - you would have done much better if you simply swallowed those two tabs, sat down in a comfy chair, put some nice music on, and tried to figure out what are those extravagant claims of psychonauts about ;)
You should have resisted, because you look like an idiot when you say that and I turned out to have done exactly that without the consequences you apparently expected.
Your source for these sweeping claims?
> The only thing these drugs have in common with LSD is that they are potent hallucinogens, but you wouldn't notice the difference anyway on a sub-treshold dose.
I wouldn't, no. But that doesn't explain why when I tripped on the second tab, it exactly matched what I was expecting from what I'd read about LSD trips.
> I can tell you from anecdotal experience that this method leaves a significant amount of the substance embedded in the blotter.
How exactly does that work, given that LSD is water soluble and the solution was very dilute?
> Finally, putting LSD dissolved in an aqueous solution in a regular fridge is a horrible way to go about storing it. LSD must be protected from light and from changes in temperature, so a fridge doesn't work very well in this regard. Plus, dissolving LSD in a solution makes it degrade much faster, if the solution comes into contact with oxygen, since the surface area where reactions with oxygen can occur expands vastly.
It seemed a standard approach which protects it from light and heat degradation, and there would be no 'changes in temperature' given that the tabs were stored in the refrigerator the entire time before being turned into a solution which itself was stored in a refrigerator the entire time.
> And I can't resist a little addendum - you would have done much better if you simply swallowed those two tabs, sat down in a comfy chair, put some nice music on, and tried to figure out what are those extravagant claims of psychonauts about ;)
I am amused that you think I didn't do exactly that. So, you have made these claims assuming that I did not trip or listen to music. Now that you have learned that I did, and I regard my previous opinions as still correct, are you changing any of your beliefs?