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>Just because Scalzi has problems with listening to what people are saying, does not mean that everyone else has.

Yes, but I can assure you that when it comes to discussing privilege, well, yes, everyone else does have.



Privilege is a heavily loaded word that is difficult to use in context of contructive discussion. You are by default swallowing the feminist bait and playing by their rules. Making it impossible to gain any ground because of fallacious, circular logic.

I'm not denying that privilege exist at all. I'm just saying that how it's understood and used is heavily biased and politicized. It would be much more productive to discuss about topics without resorting to feminist dogma.


FWIW, I found Scalzi's post to be much more constructive (not to mention well-written) than whatever agenda you're pushing here, which is coming across as fairly toxic...

It seems pretty clear that people's obliviousness to their own privilege is a much bigger problem than too many people "swallowing the feminist bait."


Oh, I'm sorry, I mistakenly engaged a troll. I'll stop now.


welp, an argument you can't win! Time to insult people!


Once someone has preemptively labeled anything you might say as "dogma", there is no argument. I don't believe in drinking from poisoned wells.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma

Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization. It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, and it cannot be changed or discarded without affecting the very system's paradigm, or the ideology itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_and_gender_feminism

http://bit.ly/OExNvm

I think some feminist thought has good ideas worth listening to. Gender feminism and feminism projected through the lens of most modern women does not.

Individual women have a lot to tell. Individual women are very much worth listening to.

Here's one interesting comment from the Pinker article:

Forwarded this article and got the answer, paraphrased, from a liberal 'it isn't that liberals disagree, it is the moral hazard of agreeing; there's nothing to stop the lower orders from returning to all of the horrors of the past.' And, there you have it. The Left has no faith in traditional religions to counteract the evil impulses of the past so a proxy religion becomes necessary even if not entirely believed by its adherents. And, then the sacraments of that religion come to control us all and to be used as a cludgel against all competitor religions.




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