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The images are neat, but I would rather throw my laptop in the ocean than read chat transcripts between a human and an AI.

(Science fiction novels excluded, of course.)

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Somebody a while back on HN compared sharing AI chat transcripts as the equivalent of telling everyone all about that “amazing dream you had last night”.

I guess they were (unknowingly?) quoting Tom Scott, unless he himself was also doing the same: https://youtu.be/jPhJbKBuNnA?t=384

I think he was quoting some unknown person, since the made the same comparison shortly before on an episode of Safety Third.

The most famous literary expression of this idea comes from F. Scott Fitzgerald in The Great Gatsby. While discussing the tedious nature of listening to others recount their dreams, there is a general literary consensus often attributed to him (and other authors like Mark Twain or Henry James) that:

"Nothing is more boring than other people’s dreams."

-- by Gemini


> "Nothing is more boring than other people’s dreams."

I disagree. Often their dreams are more interesting than their boring stories about some their "real life" situations, or - God forbid - their gossip.

I would even claim that at least for the phase in my life when I kept a diary of my dreams, and thus got much more observant of my dreams, I did have (somewhat) interesting dreams (even for other people), for example

- dreaming two dreams in parallel (it's basically like having two desktop applications open at the same time)

- having a dream where I additionally have a dream inside it (and I am aware of the latter); it does in my opinion not really feel like the Inception movie, but rather like the feeling of playing a video game where you are basically both a person who plays a video game in which you control a video game character (and are aware of this), and the character inside the video game.


Nothing more fun than telling your dreams to ChatGPT. Especially if it already has learned the details of the dream-world you are often living in.

Except sometimes you get absolutely banger dreams.

I still don't want to know.

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>But what you're specifically watching here is two brains from two entirely different species communicating and working together.

No this is a dude playing with his chatbot.


This is just some short polymer chains in a chemical soup.

Everything starts as a toy.

Look at early computing.


Conversely, I was party to every part of crypto hype and there are some amazing parallels, like right now when people start pretending to be philosophical greeting cards instead of making concrete statements.

I never had a use for crypto.

I'm making movies with VFX now. (I've been a photons on glass filmmaker for over a decade. This tech rocks.)

I'm basically automating my work and acting as a senior manager. Claude can write my code in my style 100x faster than me. I'm reviewing the code, making adjustments - that means I have to pay back the efficiency gain, but overall this is easily a doubling of my productivity.

I'm making music and images and I've never been able to do those things. I suck at graphics design - now I can actually do it.

Google search sucks. Complicated searches had become impossible. Now I can ask very obscure and hard questions and easily verify the LLM results.

We've effectively jumped 50 years in tech capability, it feels like. I feel like I'm living in the future. This is only the beginning, too.

I don't care if you use AI. In fact, I'm better off if you don't. That gives me even more of an edge.

Please stay away from AI. I'll keep using it.


> I'm making music and images and I've never been able to do those things. I suck at graphics design - now I can actually do it.

I’d argue you still can’t do it, you just have access to cheap enough labour that you can afford to have it done for you on a scale which you couldn’t before. However seeing as you haven’t developed those skills in the first place you also lack the ability to make any deep critique of the output you are given. Instead of guiding it in the way someone experienced would, you’re still the client, except now you’re the client of a machine.


You and every two bit poser, that's the problem. Whatever edge you had as a 'photons on glass filmmaker' is now completely gone. The one thing you should hope for is that it wasn't your skill that was the moat but your ability to tell stories. If not then your goose is utterly cooked because those skills are now so trivial to come by they no longer serve as a barrier to entry for those that are dedicated to the art. So your fine works will drown in slop.

I use plenty of AI, I just don't go around making weird pseudo-intellectual semi-philosophical statements about it.

And as you have pivoted to "Its a really good technology/tool" from "This is an alien brain" I understand that you have completely given up on that framing.

Or maybe it fell outside your context window, lmao.


Even as a tech person I never had any use for crypto. Never heard mention of crypto outside or the tech bubble.

AI? Everyone and their dog have at least tried it, from kids in middle school to housekeepers. It’s even more common than the internet was pre 2000.


If its that great it doesn't need weird people advocating for it in comment sections pretending to be buddha or an alien intelligence from an Arthur C Clarke novel.

> Everything starts as a toy

Especially toys. Toys overwhelmingly start as toys.


You're watching someone press buttons on an mp3 player and calling it a religious experience.

What do you think humans are made of other than molecules and electrical signals?

Why do you think what a thing is made of matters? That's nothing more than it's paint job.

Your comment seemed to imply being dismissive of a computer program or some other physical system having life.

It did no such thing.

> This is the spark of fire that kicked off civilization.

How can the now influence the past?


I just skipped to the images. Don't even want to skim generated nonsense.

> images are neat

Are they though? I don't know what I expected, but to me they looked like nothing. Maybe they'd be more impressive if I'd read the transcripts but whatever.


Consider it generative / digital art, emergent from some kind of algorithm. That's interesting enough to explore and write about in an article.

+1, I don’t even fully read my own conversations with AI

Oh that reminds me. Could someone make an AI interface where each agent uses a different Culture ship name, and looks like the dialog from Excession?

If we are going to have a dystopia, lets make it fun, at least...


They haven’t earned ship names yet.

If we are going by Culture standards, then surely the AIs should give themselves appropriate names?

The minds name themselves. Ask your agent.

That feels somehow sacrilegious.

Forget AGI benchmarks, I'm watching for when AI start giving themselves culture names.

Well now you've done it.

I feel the same way, but apparently millions of people are using character.ai?

-HAL, Throw my portable computing device through the porthole.

-Im afraid I cant do that Dave!

-HAL, do you need some time on dr. Chandras couch again?

-Dave, relax, have you forgotten that I dont have arms?


Don’t throw it away, just send it to me I might have a few good use for it ;)

Claude manages to be even more insufferable than the stereotype of a pretentious artist, with none of the talent.



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