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Why EU-native rather than nation-native ? If you are French, your sensitive stuff must be French-native, just like Switzerland does, not "EU-native whatever that means".

There is no EU, each country has very strong different interests, on some topics, some will decide to stay close to the US, on some other topics, some will seek proximity with the BRICS, etc, etc. Constantly being in an in-between is what has destroyed Europe.





> There is no EU

> what has destroyed Europe.

Hyperbole much?

I think you completely misunderstand what the EU is, the position of its member states, etc.

It's hard to take any point you tried to make seriously given that.


Many EU countries have bought US fighter jets (Denmark for instance). Many EU countries still make it clear that they want US technology (Poland for instance). Germany is sending extremely mixed signals.

So, when it's "EU sovereignity", which is it, the Polish flavored one, or the French-flavored one ?


> Many EU countries have bought US fighter jets (Denmark for instance).

This is more related to NATO than to EU.

> So, when it's "EU sovereignity", which is it, the Polish flavored one, or the French-flavored one ?

EU is not a country. Each country within the EU has its own government, and sometimes they exist in tension and are redundant with the bloc.

It is actually a point in favor of a more federalized EU. Each individual country in isolation is too ineffective on its own.


No. "Stronger together" is a hoax, and is only true if all participants are in agreement, otherwise you are "weaker together". 20 years of failed projects (apart from the law saying that bottles should have their cap attached) show that it is impossible to reach consensus with 27 participants.

Put 27 people in a room, all wanting something different, nothing comes out.


You are wrong.

Every country in EU is materially better in the bloc, and the only country that left it is much worse for it.

Brexit was such a monumental disaster for the UK that even far right morons in other EU countries had to massively tone down if not abandon any "exit" rhetoric. Now their strategy is to "reform" the EU (i.e.: weaken it).

> 20 years of failed projects (apart from the law saying that bottles should have their cap attached)

This alone shows you are unwilling to engage with the idea of the EU in good faith, thus this conversation with you is a massive waste of my time.

The EU is not perfect (and in fact the expectation of unanimous decisions via veto powers is one if its main weaknesses). But every country, including my own, would be much worse without it.

I will not reply any further, feel free to have the last word.




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