> I'm convinced good students don't need good universities as much as good universities need good students. I get the same internships and job opportunities as someone that went to UofT and I'm studying much of the same curriculum.
In Engineering+Accounting+Actuary+Nursing I agree.
> The higher level of competitiveness is hurting the best universities during that acceptance phase. Ontario universities are no longer able to differentiate between the best and average.
Same thing in California, and that's largely because faculty hiring and infrastructure just didn't keep pace with the amount of students declaring Engineering+Accounting+Actuary+Nursing majors (Accounting+Actuary+Nursing face the same problems as STEM fields), which meant admissions need to be much more competitive because you can only teach so many students.
I assume it's a similar story in Ontario due to decades of austerity in the province.
> Even so, because the acceptance phase no longer differentiates, a lot of good students that would beat the second phase are caught in the first filter.
Yep. Because infrastructure didn't scale.
> Waterloo is an exception because it has introduced math competitions across the province as a way to identify "A+++" students, but only Waterloo benefits from that
Yep, the Euclid is basically a soft requirement now for Waterloo CS admissions.
Honestly, Ontario should just ditch "autonomous" universities and merge them under a single "University of Ontario" system and simplifying cross-system course transfers.
Ontario should also force Colleges to stop giving Bachelors degrees and convert them either into Community Colleges to transfer to a University or convert larger Colleges into Universities.
This is what Quebec does, and most state systems in the US (California, Texas, New York, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Massachusetts, etc).
There is no reason for UWaterloo or Wilfrid Laurier to be two different universities despite being a couple blocks away from each other.
Same for UT, UT Scarborough, York, TMU/Ryerson, etc all in GTA
In Engineering+Accounting+Actuary+Nursing I agree.
> The higher level of competitiveness is hurting the best universities during that acceptance phase. Ontario universities are no longer able to differentiate between the best and average.
Same thing in California, and that's largely because faculty hiring and infrastructure just didn't keep pace with the amount of students declaring Engineering+Accounting+Actuary+Nursing majors (Accounting+Actuary+Nursing face the same problems as STEM fields), which meant admissions need to be much more competitive because you can only teach so many students.
I assume it's a similar story in Ontario due to decades of austerity in the province.
> Even so, because the acceptance phase no longer differentiates, a lot of good students that would beat the second phase are caught in the first filter.
Yep. Because infrastructure didn't scale.
> Waterloo is an exception because it has introduced math competitions across the province as a way to identify "A+++" students, but only Waterloo benefits from that
Yep, the Euclid is basically a soft requirement now for Waterloo CS admissions.
Honestly, Ontario should just ditch "autonomous" universities and merge them under a single "University of Ontario" system and simplifying cross-system course transfers.
Ontario should also force Colleges to stop giving Bachelors degrees and convert them either into Community Colleges to transfer to a University or convert larger Colleges into Universities.
This is what Quebec does, and most state systems in the US (California, Texas, New York, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Massachusetts, etc).
There is no reason for UWaterloo or Wilfrid Laurier to be two different universities despite being a couple blocks away from each other.
Same for UT, UT Scarborough, York, TMU/Ryerson, etc all in GTA