You can still download and play CS:GO. Right click > Properties > Betas. I've used ti for playing a mod with friends that doesn't work in CS2 yet. Of course, there's less players now.

Isn't that kind of messed up? CS:GO used to cost money, some users paid for something they can't play anymore.

This happens all the time. I used to be able to play Rocket League natively on my Linux PC. Then Epic bought it and simply pressed delete on the Linux port.

As much as that sucks it might be possible to play. I use the Hero Launcher to play the games from Epic through Proton. IDK if anticheat might mess you up, but you might try that

Same happened with facepunches Rust

And offered full refunds for those users, even if they had bought it five years prior.

I don't see the game in my library anymore, so I guess I ended up doing that.

Kinda? Honestly that's just how online games work.

CS:GO is over a decade old at this point, and has been free for 5 years. What should we expect?

Expect that you don't lose access to a game you have?

They didn't just release a new game: they literally removed the previous game people had and replaced it with a new, incompatible game.

They didn't have to do that, they could have made a new game entry and earned their new install base by... putting out something that was better than the last entry and letting the players decide?

But much easier to just remove the last entry.

It's the kind of nonsense people normally jump at developers for, but because Valve is apparently still the darling of the gaming world so people seem to be excusing it.

Apple kinda set the tone here with their depreciation of 32-bit execution modes and OpenGL, plus their general hostility towards open or cross-platform APIs. By removing support for the old way of doing things and refusing to meet in the middle with developer frameworks, you end up with a platform that benefits nobody but the license-holders. That's what happened with DirectX, an actually useful API that Valve invests millions of dollars in spurning anyways. Why would they kiss the Metal ring?

CS:GO still launches now that CS2 exists. Never mind the fact that the source code leaked, you can still install CS:GO from Steam or run a cracked copy without VAC support. Valve supported unofficial servers from the get-go, so diehard CS:GO fans on Mac can play any version they like for as long as Apple chooses to support it.

> Valve is apparently still the darling of the gaming world

Damn these alternative App Stores and their powerful competition!

This is an insane amount of noise to throw out for such a simple point...

Valve made a new game: Instead of releasing it as a new game, they abused a loophole to force said new game onto people's devices without them having any say in the matter.

In other words, a piece of software they didn't ask for is being installed, and the software they did ask for is now hidden behind workarounds.

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Apple plays no part in any of that: trying to paint not abusing your digital distribution platform... as being equivalent kissing Apple's ass is nonsensical to the point of absurdity.

> I just don't think auto-updating to a broken build is some vast betrayal of confidence or anti-consumer row

I think you showed why I'm having trouble taking you seriously fairly succinctly.

You're complaining about broken updates on MacOS. I'm having trouble parsing your arguement seriously in the first place; people have been warning against auto-updates on Mac for years.

Given that nobody had anything taken from them, I legitimately don't see how you could demonize Valve over this. There is no way for me to sympathize with you over this, as a Steam user or as a former Mac user.

So now you're conflating intentional breaking software by deleting it and replacing it to avoid having to fairly compete on distribution like every other new game release... with auto updates.

Pro tip: using blatant strawman arguments to troll works better if you don't go so hard in the paint defending them. The latter just makes you look incompetent.

I'm conflating my justification, yes.

My entire point was to break down your conflation that users would "lose access" to CS:GO. That is wrong, and you have not produced any evidence to contradict that. My "strawman" is not an argument at all; it's genuine shock that anyone who cares this much about auto-updates would use a Mac in the first place.

K.

The previoys game was not removed, you can go into settings and pick the old version iirc.

You can play CS:GO locally against bots. It's the only way I've played it, in fact.

And I did pay for it.

Valve seems to intend on just releasing the original CS:GO as an (unsupported) title with community run servers

They could have just... kept the existing game listing as-is (but unsupported) and released CS2 as a separate game listing.

Why? Not trying to be difficult, but what would they get out of this?

Game preservation, options for people who can’t play CS2, keeping a clear chronology of the game’s history.

Replacing CSGO with CS2 is the oddity.

Most players can just go to betas/versions in the steam program prefrences and download the version they prefer and play.

Normally I am on Valve's side, but I agree that them pulling CS:GO was a stupid move. Anyone else would have been torn a new one for doing that.

Even though its not as popular as the others, I just stick to CS:Source and CS:1.6. Can't beat the classics, and they have been around for so long that they aren't going to be taken away at any point.