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Didn’t say that. I think that grad students are reasonably paid a small salary to be able to live modestly on, so that more students can be taken into programs. Requiring a living wage to the tune of $50k/yr at UC Berkeley as the standard is not reasonable as a matter of spending university $ wisely, or as a matter of what the role of grad school is.


I have two examples of how living modestly as a grad student at Stanford may be difficult.

• There is a University-sanctioned monthly food bank for students. https://rde.stanford.edu/food-pantry-pop-up

• After securing an apartment community specifically for postdocs, the minimum income required for many rentals was set higher than minimum postdoc funding. https://stanforddaily.com/2023/04/23/postdocs-say-theyre-fin...

Do I have hard numbers? No, but I’m not going to take the time to gather hard numbers for this site.

Also, telling postdocs (and grad students) to simply live off campus would be detrimental to the University, given it’s relationship with the County.


OK. How would you suggest that students cover $50k/year for six to eight years?


I don’t understand your sentence.




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