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Everything's orbital velocity was taken relative to what they orbit. My point is if you take Jupiter and +/- the moon's orbital velocity you get a more extreme orbits than you do with Mars +/- Deimos. So the new orbits say just as much about how far they are from the sun vs what they orbit.

PS: The Earth is not the original definition of flat.



No, you took the Moon's velocity relative to the Earth. The Moon orbits the Sun and its velocity relative to Earth is only useful for astrology purposes.


If you want to use the deepest gravity well then the Moon orbits the black hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy (plus the matter closer the the center). Orbital velocity 216 kilometers per second around Milky way vs 42.1 +/- 1 km/s around the sun and earth.

However, when you look at the actual accelerations involved the moon is much more attracted to the earth (by over 100x) than it is to the sun or the center of the Galaxy. Which is why the moon is tidally locked with the earth and not the sun.

PS: All of these still don't add up to the 583km/s velocity relative to the CBR.


> However, when you look at the actual accelerations involved the moon is much more attracted to the earth (by over 100x) than it is to the sun

Your "over 100x" figure is entirely made up. The correct answer is 0.46.

Depth of the well does not matter, it is the steepness of the well. In other words, what is pulling the hardest on the Moon. The Sun pulls twice as hard as the Earth, so there is a compelling argument that the Sun is the Moon's primary.

The black hole at the center of the Milky Way is (rounding up for your benefit) 4 million solar masses and 27000 ly away. But that inverse square law really hurts and the Sun's gravitational force is 733e15 times stronger than the black hole's.

Let's step it up and include all 10 billion solar masses in the center. The Sun is still ahead by a factor of 290 trillion. The galactic core has almost no effect on the solar system, so it is silly to claim that any planetary body orbits the core.

Regarding tidal lock, the force of tidal lock is (more or less) proportionate to gravitational force * angular velocity. While the Earth's gravitational force on the Moon is half as strong as the Sun's, the relative angular velocity is 12 times faster. So the Earth's tidal forces on the Moon are six times stronger than those of the Sun. Naturally, the Moon is tidal locked to the Earth.




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