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With new Samsungs (S21 ultra) and other Chinese phones like Xiaomi and Huawei you get quite a lot of optical zoom, like 10x

The new iPhone pro has a fairly decent 3x (71mm equivalent)



> The new iPhone pro has a fairly decent 3x (71mm equivalent)

For birds (depends on the kind of bird) you're looking at the 300-800 mm supertele range.


The 450mm equivalent of the long end of my 70-300 is just barely enough if the bird is nearby. 71mm is wider than the wide end (35mm equivalent) and far too wide for anything that'll run/fly away if I get close enough.




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