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I thought Europe would do this type of stuff

No need. EU cookie banners seem to have won the day by pushing the US actually on to the slippery slope of whataboutism.

we're not far behind.


Ok where is the Microsoft explorer of this “Netscape”

Gemini is a pretty spot on comparison. Google is putting in front of users at every opportunity. And Gemini is a way better product than IE ever was.

You guys think American shouldn’t use AI in military at all isn’t understanding their counter party is absolutely all in on AI in theirs

That's the logic of monsters:

Step 1: We believe the enemy is a monster who does [terrible act].

Step 2: To counteract this, we must do [terrible act].

Result: we maintain we are the "good guys" because we were "forced" into it by their presumed behavior.

He who fights with imagined monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

That quote is 140 years old. Is that enough time to heed it?


Nobody was advocating for zero AI in the military - certainly not Anthropic. They were fine with all lawful US military use cases except for two: the mass domestic surveillance of Americans and fully autonomous weapons. Whether you agree or disagree with their particular red lines, that's quite far from them trying to keep their product out of the military.

Nobody is complaining about the government not giving Anthropic a contract. It’s about the unprecedented and outrageous threats to destroy their business if they don’t provide the government with what they demand. There is no national supply risk from Boeing using Claud Code just beacause Anthropic won’t agree to domestically-surviving killbots. The government’s behaviour is overwhelmingly malevolent and terrifying.

We don't want to support Ai under Trump. We don't even want a department of war.

Well thank fuck you're not in charge. A lot of terrorist groups and foreign governments don't want us to have a department of war either.

I don't think the pedofile thief king is going to help fix that.

Sam went second so he can obviously use the entire situation to warn the govt about designating all AI companies supply chain risk

Is not shady, the systems are not ready for that kind of task esp autonomous hunting. Is smart negotiations, plus Sam would have used the Anthropic situation against them saying you can’t designate all AI top American AI companies supply chain risk etc. it’s complete idiocy the would do that anyways

Ready at what level, though. The subtleties are what matters.

It’s well established that belligerents can use mines, to separate the tactical decision of deploying for purposes of area denial; from the snap-second lethal decision (if one can stretch that definition) to detonate in response to an triggering event.

Dario’s model prohibits using AI to decide between enemy combatant and an innocent civilian (even if the AI is bad at it, it is better than just detonating anyways); Sam’s model inherits the notion that the „responsible human” is one that decided to mine that bridge; and AI can make the kill decision.

How is that fundamentally different in the future war where an officer might make a decision to send a bunch of drones up; but the drones themselves take on the lethal choice of enemy/ally/no-combatant engagement without any human in the loop? ELI5 why we can’t view these as smarter mines?


It's different because we are talking about a technology that we might lose control over at some point. Those drones in your example might make an entirely different choice than what you anticipated when you let them take off.

Learn to read. “ Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement.”

Meanwhile, the mass surveillance is outsourced to Flock

when do they go to court?

so they outlawed a calculator?

most people want openclaw to access their personal files, thats the big use case.

Can't these claws build their own personalities, and along with it their own personal files?

The claw community is clearly not thinking big enough.


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