The air traffic controller union was asking for a 32-hour work week and a $10,000 a year raise. The counter offer would give them salaries higher than the private sector, but keep the work week at 5 days instead of 4. So they went on strike.
After the workers disobeyed a Federal judge's orders to return to work, they were fired.
EDIT: It's so funny that if you make any comment that doesn't tow the left wing narrative here on HN you're down voted. I'm not right or left, but find it kinda sad.
The salaries were in comparison to the private sector. TBH I'm not sure what jobs & ages they chose to compare Federal salaries to the private sector. Seems kinda arbitrary. Perhaps it was in comparison to private sector union workers?
Do the reasons for firing them (looked it up, over 11,000 !) even matter?
Because the remainder and future employment prospects for ATC simply looked at how they were treated and how they had absolutely no options and decided to NOPE NOPE out of that profession.
And so here we are:
naming airports after people whose actions eventually led to the specific reasons for the disaster
You said "Reagan fired thousands upon thousands of ATC because they dared to ask for proper wages." All I did was correct you, and I didn't do so rudely. The rational reaction would be, "Huh, this issue is more complex than I initially thought. I should learn more about it."
The ones under the Baltic (with the exception of some islands) are not 'critical', as in they're used for reasons (cost, latency, directness), but those reasons are not b/c there's no other way to connect to the Internet.
But cutting a few of them doesn’t mean the transactions don’t happen, they’re just slightly delayed, so you can’t count the full value of those transactions as a loss.
To adapt the old saying, the internet interprets cut cables as unreachable intermediate nodes and routes around them.
I suspect that most people are so against the lab manufactured hypothesis because they've been infected by Covid, probably multiple times, and have decided to stop taking precautions. To accept that you've been infected with a bioweapon is a pretty upsetting prospect.
> I suspect that most people are so against the lab manufactured hypothesis because they've been infected by Covid
Sorry, but that borders on historic revisionism. People are so against the lab manufactured hypothesis because millions of posts regarding it on social media were suppressed and blocked across Facebook, Twitter, and others; and because high-level US officials pressured scientists to claim that it was more likely natural origin than a lab leak despite their actual beliefs; and because a vast section of media and academia blithely swallowed and pushed Daszak's paper in The Lancet despite obvious flaws and massive conflicts of interest. Dissenting views and evidence were heavily suppressed, no matter how convincing or reputable.
The narrative was so forcefully shifted that any discussion of a lab leak was often met with hatred.
And all that was well before most people were infected multiple times.
Your memory is accurate. Yet elsewhere we have an infectious disease researcher claiming
> At the same time, I've come to distrust many of the voices who push the lab leak hypothesis, either because they're obviously doing so for geopolitical reasons, or because they've become addicted to being "the lone voice in the wilderness", despite it not being a risky position to take.
It's an incredible phenomenon, the collective memory blackout that seems to have taken place regarding the vibe in 2020-2021. Never before, or even after (so far), have we seen a more strictly coordinated ban on discussion of a specific topic across all major US social networks. It even reached as far as Wikipedia.
Here's what Yishan Wong (ex-Reddit) has said about it
> Example: the "lab leak" theory (a controversial theory that is now probably true; I personally believe so) was "censored" at a certain time in the history of the pandemic because the "debate" included ...massive amounts of horrible behavior, spam-level posting, and abuse that spilled over into the real world - e.g. harrassment of public officials and doctors, racially-motivated crimes, etc.
There are many problems with this reasoning, but the biggest one is that if true, it should have rightfully caused mob behaviour.
Gaza War (2023-present): <100k deaths
Ukraine War: <1 million deaths
Korean War: 2-3 million deaths
Vietnam: 1.3-3.4 million deaths
Covid: 6+ million deaths
Normally I would disregard their findings. However, the FBI, former head of the CDC, and Congressional panel all came to the same conclusion: Covid was made in a lab.
After spending some time on the teachers subreddit I completely understand why so many people are choosing to homeschool. The amount of in-classroom abuse -- verbal and physical -- in addition to the entitled parents is shocking.
Total coincidence, nothing to see here, peasants. If you think otherwise you’re a conspiracy theorist, a Putin apologist, a gaslighter, or whatever we’re calling you today.
When billions - perhaps trillions - of dollars are on the line, CEOs and their associates will stop at nothing to get that money. They're surely not going to let the life of a single person stand in their way.
Look at what the eBay CEO did to someone simply criticizing them.
>Look at what the eBay CEO did to someone simply criticizing them.
If you're trying to imply openai killed him and that's the best example of corporate retaliation you can come up with, then you're nowhere close to proving your point. Sending pigs heads is despicable, by nowhere close to ordering a hit.
I listened to the podcast "Kill List" where journalists got backend access to a hitman for hire website and do episodes featuring targeted individuals they notified.
What I got out of it is a garden variety abuser crosses the threshold to actually ordering a hit when the abuser felt they lost power over the abused.
A whistleblower about to publicly testify would 100% match up with that.
Again, that's the claim you're trying to argue for, but the best evidence you presented so far (ebay harassment case) doesn't prove that. It shows that they're at least not willing to commit murder. Maybe there's some psycho CEO out there that did order a hit, but you haven't presented that, and it's a stretch to go from "sending pig's head" to "ordering a hit".
I'm implying that is something that needs to be investigated. The motive is there: hundreds of billions of dollars. And people do not become billionaires by being nice and playing nice. Many of them have clinical psychopathy (ASPD).
Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck?
>Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck?
"Bad luck" implies they're dying at a higher rate than expected. Do you have any evidence that's the case, factoring in the fact that being a whistleblower is stressful? Stunt drivers probably die in occupational related deaths at a far higher rate than expected, but I don't think it's "bad luck" or make posts calling for police to reinvestigate on the off chance that the accident was actually a murder.
Excerpt: "They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival."
"Seven eBay employees pleaded guilty to charges involving criminal conspiracies.[3][4] The seven employees included two senior members of eBay’s corporate security team.[5] Two members of eBay's Executive Leadership Team who were implicated in the scandal were not charged"
