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>medium nagsite C will never ever be replaced. It's just not happening.


He hasn’t been certified as the winner of even a single state yet. Trump called the bluff, soon the only vote that matters will be ACB’s.


News organizations have always made the call before the vote was certified (hence the famous "Dewey Defeats Truman").


Nothing, I switched from Linux to OpenBSD and it’s been great. I could see people bemoaning the lack of their flatsnaps and wine.


If Apple had gone with Smalltalk for the Mac instead of making something that merely looked like it we’d be living a better future.


They had plenty of ex PARC developers in their team and even a ST80 license, so they could have done so no doubt. Obviously they considered ST80 not mature or efficient enough for their projects and invented Object Pascal instead. This is actually not that surprising considering that neither Xerox used ST80 in their products. Even the first WYSIWYG and DTP programs in existence were written in BCPL (precursor of C) on the Alto, not in ST (see http://xeroxalto.computerhistory.org/xerox_alto_file_system_...). There is an article by Tesler where he describes how they had to increase the frame rate of a demonstration video ten times because the application written in ST76 was so slow (see https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2212877.2212896).


>I don't know there is something inherently not trustworthy about Google or American company.

That something's called PRISM.


Good? They should have been doing this years ago. Look at how spammers operating with gmail addresses have screwed up Usenet, or as Google calls it, Groups.


It's impossible to believe any forecast, nobody fessed up after 2016 nor did they explain why their models are wrong or attempt to update them. You're less than 24 hours away from the permanent death of the political polling and forecasting industry in the USA.

Nate's already coping really hard on Twitter.


I don't believe this is accurate. NYT[0], HuffPo[1], Princeton Election Consortium[2], 538[3,4], and others did analyze their model's failures and update their models and methodologies in response.

0: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/upshot/presidential-foreca...

1: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pollster-forecast-donald...

2: http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/09/aftermath/

3: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gav...

4: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pund...


Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean by, "nobody fessed up after 2016"?

From my understanding there wasn't the "big miss" that got called out in media, and to the extent that the rust belt/upper midwest had state level polling variance, it was determined to be due to the lack of accounting for education as part of polling.

I guess if it doesn't rain and the weatherperson says it should have rained, do we give up on even trying?


That's not true, there have been countless articles about why polling went wrong last time.

Also, polling wasn't that wrong. Due to sampling bias, several swing states were off by as much as 5-6 percentage points. But national polling bad Hillary winning by something like 4% in the popular vote.

Instead, she won the popular vote by 3%.


> several swing states were off by as much as 5-6 percentage points

Most state polls have margins of error ranging from 3 to 6 points. A 3-point MoE state poll is a really expensive poll.


A properly conducted poll with 1000 respondents has a margin of error of 3.2%. There have been quite a few of these in battleground states this cycle.


Believing that occurrence of an event with a forecasted 30% chance (or 2% chance) of occurring invalidates a model is so fundamentally a misunderstanding of the topic.


My DM: "You're going to try to hit this guy with your bare hands, even though you have +0 strength?"

Me: "Does a 17 hit?"

My DM: "His armor class was 16. It was supposed to be impossible for you to hit him with a d20. I have just witnessed the permanent death of the dungeon mastering industry in Faerûn. I will now cope on Twitter, goodbye."


Well pre-2016 there was the assumption that the American electorate basically is capable of self-governing. This assumption has been invalidated so while the polling industry hasn’t gone away it’s now more like the sports forecasting industry, where people are speculating on an essentially theatrical performance, than something substantively driving good governance.


Many governors have reached far beyond their allowed powers, as court cases have recently shown.


Yeah the Michigan governor comes to mind in particular.


The 175HQ is probably my favorite rare tube.


This is a bit of a term of art. "They" don't "listen" to your calls. A computer does.


Says who? Not Snowden's leaks. Not the NSA. Not Ron Wyden.


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