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this has 0 to do with price and if they win the fact that the US will choose its local competitor over them wouldnt be because of price


> local competitor

Meh, ASML could be ordered to move to the US and they would comply.

It's not necessary, cf. Nexperia.


I should hope that they wouldn't. In fact I presume they wouldn't. Without ASML or TSMC, some of the most valuable American companies would be fucked.


I think this is where youre missing it > The US still has immense military power. Because this isnt true anymore and its been proven over and over in the past few years. As industrial power goes so does military and the US military is showing huge cracks while facing 3 massive wars in the pacific, ukraine, and middle east. Its already admitted it cant protect all 3.

The chinese just this week shut down the entire US auto industry because of rare earth if they blockade taiwan how long until they win that.


>Because this isnt true anymore and its been proven over and over in the past few years.

This is just incorrect. It has not “been proven over and over in the past few years”.


You explained the issue perfectly we are moving past a age and time where we care what portfolio mangers/equity investors want. The point is to do things those investors hate but benefits the US government which you explained they wont do without force.


Put AI in charge. I been playing with a lot of ideas about putting AI as a mediator for a groups of people have you seen that anywhere?


Great idea. Let me train a model for that purpose.

I guarantee it will be fair and wise.


It has to be more fair and wise and logically consistent than a human. With no kids, food or desires there no reason for it to get desperate and screw people over


>It has to be

Why is that? LLMs aren't magically reasonable, nor are they even intelligent. They just do word math and output strings of text...


Yeah, but you don’t actually want intelligence — you want consistency. And LLMs are great at giving you the next word or phrase based on the probability that you truly believe a prompt and its context.

Which is exactly what you want. It’s like if you ask a group of five people what they want to eat, knowing they’re all vegans. If you wanted a fair decision-maker, you’d hope they pick something close — vegan and good. An AI will always give that answer in a boring and predictable way. But a human might take outside context into account or selfishly pick a non-vegan restaurant — not because it’s consistent, but due to any number of random outside factors.


An LLM might very well pick undesirable outcomes because all it's doing is remixing human knowledge which has led to plenty of undesirable outcomes.

LLM powered governance seems like a janky version of luxury communism.


But, people, I guaranteed fairness and wisdom. Just trust my model, OK? It's for your own good.

I give you my word.


Issue is "might" is better than the guaranteed corruption of socialist system at scale. You can adjust the AI, humans we know are to flawed to lead a altruistic movement or make constant selfless decisions


Debatable. E.g. "MechaHitler."


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